bush, clinton and perot. in the second debate, george w. bush is behind. he needs to have a game changing moment. instead -- there was this moment when people thought he was disinterested and couldn't connect. >> yes, how has the national debt personally affected each of your lives and if it hasn't, how can you honestly find a cure for the economic problems of the common people if you have no experience in what's ailing them? >> i think the national debt affects everybody. obviously, it has a lot to do with interest rates. it has -- >> she's saying you personally. >> on a personal basis. how has it affected you? >> has it affected you personally? >> i'm sure it is. i love my grandchildren. i want to think they're going to be able to afford an education. >> president bush there unable to connect with that voter looking at the watch, a lot of people at home found that disrespectful. to 2000, look at the gyrations in this race. this was right after the republican convention. al gore gets back in the hunt after his convention. they come to the first debate wit